In Canada many believe…

…on the whole that bad people are somehow the victims [“such a nice guy“] of a flawed society. In the US, however flawed one may–or may not–consider the society to be, there are people who are simply considered bad by the justice system:

Madoff pleads guilty and goes to jail in handcuffs
[…]
Prosecutors say the disgraced financier, who has spent three months under house arrest in his $7 million Manhattan penthouse, could face a maximum term of 150 years in prison at sentencing June 16…

Compare:

An Ottawa bomb builder today became the first man to be sentenced under Canada’s post-9/11 laws, as a judge meted out a 10 1/2-year sentence against Mohammad Momin Khawaja, atop of the five years he has already spent jailed awaiting trial…

With virtually automatic parole after two-thirds of that 10 1/2-years (“no chance of parole for five years”). What the the prosecutors wanted:

Crown demands two life terms for Khawaja

According to the judge:

[…]
“This is not a case of a vulnerable young person being lured or beguiled into criminal misconduct in which he was not inclined to participate,” Rutherford said at sentencing.
The judge noted Khawaja showed no remorse throughout the four-month trial and had chosen not to speak at his presentencing hearing, while his family seemed oblivious to his criminal actions.
Rutherford also said Khawaja, 29, is a relatively young man with hope for rehabilitation, but added his sentence must act as a deterrent to others…

Right. Tooth fairy believers unite, you have nothing to lose but your wings.
More comparison, same plot:

British bomb plotters jailed for life

The UK has a Labour government, supposedly in many Canadian minds far to the left of the Neanderthal Harperite hordes. Go figure.
Mark C.
Damian adds: note that the Manitoba human-rights complaint against B’Nai Brith took about as much time to resolve as Khawaja’s case.

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10 thoughts on “In Canada many believe…

  1. The Harper government intends to re-introduce legislation re: preventive detention of suspected terrorists. In a discussion of the issue on CBC’s Politics (March 12) NDPer legal expert Joe Comartin stated flatly that no other country, that he’s aware of, has such legislation on its books.
    However, here’s a couple of articles that Joe Comartin perhaps should read:
    http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/can_a_foregin_system_of_preventive_detention_work_in_the_united_states/
    “Can a Foreign System of Preventive Detention Work in the United States?
    By Aziz Huq
    – 07/23/07 …
    … Many countries have attempted to solve this problem by erecting systems of preventive detention, which would allow suspects to be held in custody without criminal charges for specified periods of time, as investigators gather information. In 2006, in reaction to the July 2005 bombings in London, the British Parliament passed legislation doubling the number of days suspects may be held in detention from 14 to 28. Israel, France, and Spain have similar schemes. And, this month, Germany’s senior counter-terrorism official, Wolfgang Schaüble, proposed new preventive detention measures as well.”
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E03E6DD173FF934A25757C0A9609C8B63&sec=&spon=&scp=9&sq=preventive%20detention%20suspected%20terrorist&st=cse&pagewanted=2
    Europe, Too, Takes Harder Line In Handling Terrorism Suspects
    By KATRIN BENNHOLD
    Published: Monday, April 17, 2006 …
    “… In December, France increased its period of detention without charge for terror suspects to six days from four; it retained rules that have allowed uncharged suspects to be denied access to a lawyer during the first three days.
    Italy last year extended custody to 24 hours from 12 and authorized the police to interrogate detainees in the absence of their lawyers. In 2003, Spain extended the period in which suspected terrorists can be held effectively incommunicado to a maximum 13 days, according to the advocacy group Human Rights Watch.
    Britain has gone furthest. The latest law doubles the period during which a terror suspect can be held in custody without charge to 28 days. It was just 48 hours in 2001, and Prime Minister Tony Blair fought for an extension to three months.”
    While I don’t know if those laws have been changed in the interim, it is no consolation to know that lawmakers like Joe Comartin apparently are not aware of how other jurisdictions handle the problem.

  2. Interesting that madoff gets tucked away in jail so quickly!Could it be that his cronies & enablers may be covering their own involement.Did I mention madoff was a big time democrat contributor?

  3. When I first saw this news I did a very quick scan on a news web page and thought I had read this wannbe mass murderer got 105 years and I thought to myself, WOW, at least one Canadian judge has a set of brass balls.
    My euphoria didn’t last long. When sick scum like this guy, a piece of human debris that makes triggers for bombs that will blow up women, children and anyone else that happens to be innocently in the area, bombs packed with nails and metal scrap so they will have maximum killing and maiming power, get such lax sentences it will only “trigger” other sick religious zealots to take up the slack.
    What a disgrace. Ten & half years. Pitiful, just frik’n pitiful.

  4. I thought the same thing. What planet are these judges on? The Tories shouldn’t introduce mandatory sentencing. They introduce legislation that says all those who advocate for shorter sentences should live with the murderers/rapists/terrorists when they are released.

  5. We should wish for at least 10+ years, hold on this is Canada, with good behaviour or a parole – this “gentleman” should be out in 5 – 6 at the most! Where oh where are the “hanging judges”?

  6. I’m not sure the comparison is that accurate. Given that Bernie Madoff is or was a wealthy financier, I doubt you would find many sympathizers for him in Canada even among bleeding-heart liberals.
    If someone is going to sympathize with a criminal, they typically find some reason to believe that the criminal is really a victim of society. White-collar criminals generally don’t qualify in that respect, so a Canadian equivalent of Madoff would be unlikely to benefit from the kind of lenience Khawaja has received.

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